In summary:

*Please test using a real environment, not a VM
*This release is not ready to be circulated to the ML, so we are telling everyone about it like this
*To test lilosetup and the installer without messing up your system, you can install to a USB
*This will give you a non-live Salix 14.0 USB!
*To make it boot, upgrade the kernel to the Live kernel
*Please test especially the following items:
	*the new grub2 menu (JRD experienced crash or reboot, please report if you do)
	*the installer
	*lilosetup (at the end of the installation
	*test using a specific timezone
	*once again, please use a real environment not a VM

Thank you in advance for testing and have fun!

(10:44:33) mimosa_: Speaking as official testing coordinator ...
(10:45:04) mimosa_: JRD: Is ther anything specific you'd like us to be looking for?
(10:45:32) JRD: yes
(10:45:53) JRD: - new grub2 menu...I exeprienced crash or reboot, so please tell me.
(10:45:57) JRD: - the installer
(10:46:09) JRD: - lilosetup (at the end of the installation)
(10:46:28) JRD: test using specific timezone
(10:46:39) JRD: please, test using a real environment, not a VM
(10:48:03) mimosa_: How do you recommend to test lilosetup and the installer without destroying our real environments?
(10:48:46) mimosa_: Akuna: Where do you think this information should go (after I have summarised it) where everyone can see it?
(10:49:16) mimosa_: Is the ML an appropriate place to reveal the existence of the Alpha?
(10:50:17) ***mimosa_ incredible I'm actually uploading to someone even with my bandwidth ;)
(10:50:19) JRD: use a didicated disk or USB key...for USB key, you need to install the live kernel instead of the regular one
(10:50:37) JRD: just before reboot
(10:51:10) mimosa_: Install live kernel? On the system live will install on the USB?
(10:52:06) JRD: ???
(10:52:15) JRD: when you finished the installation to a USB media
(10:52:52) JRD: just copy the Linux kernel of SalixLive in place of the kernel installed (in /boot/) and run lilo -v again
(10:52:55) mimosa_: = install the kernel in the live system /boot to the system I have just installed on a USB?
(10:53:05) JRD: this is because regular kernel cannot boot to USB
(10:53:11) JRD: yes
(10:53:42) mimosa_: ... and then I will have a non-live Salix 14.0 USB!
(10:53:57) JRD: you can of course test things in a VM...but we already tests some things already, and a real environment would probably show more bugs than a VM
(10:54:03) JRD: yes
(10:54:04) JRD: :)